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Books to movies

Books to movies
Books to movies
Meet and Greet with Dr. Afshan Hashmi
Books to movies

After a multimedia overview of the Hollywood industry by A. Scott Berg, Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday moderated a panel on making books into movies with Lawrence Wright, Anne-Marie O'Connor & Berg at the 2015 Library of Congress...

After a multimedia overview of the Hollywood industry by A. Scott Berg, Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday moderated a panel on making books into movies with Lawrence Wright, Anne-Marie O'Connor & Berg at the 2015 Library of Congress National Book Festival in Washington, D.C.
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0:53 Hello everyone, this is your loving host and best selling author and radio and TV plus doctor Rafshan Hashmi live from her studio in Rockville, Maryland, and today, folks, before I start my program, I want to remind you that these are my two books. The first one is The Modern Mogle Mentality Strategies to Succeed in India and the Global Marketplace, and the second one is the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection. So I just wanted to remind you that please go and buy the books because these two books bring food to the table. And also I want a movie to be made of this book. This one the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection and the script is ready.

1:38 And the first one is The Modern Mogle Mentality and it was Amazon bestseller and hot number one new release in USA, and it was also Amazon bestseller in India. And this one was Amazon bestseller in USA. So having said that, folks, I want a movie or a documentary to be made of this and a movie or a web site is made of it. So all those Hollywood, Bollywood and whoever you know wants to contact me, Netflix and Amazon, whoever wants to contact me, please contact me at a chan at dr rachanhash me dot com. Having said that, folks, now we are going to talk about a movie from how the movie is made from books to move that what is the procedure and all? And it was discussed in Library of Congress Book Festival a couple of years back. And so today we will watch that movie. And please give me sponsorship because this show is syndicated worldwide to three hundred million listeners. So I just want you know, these uh these books, you know, uh my books to go into movies and see the procedure.

2:53 It's a very interesting procedure and a very interesting movie. And it is one hour long, but there be couple of a sponsor ship breaks and so we will watch the movie and for now then, and I am going to say geos and bye bye. From the Library of Congress in Washington, DC. Welcome to the second annual Books to Movies presentation. My name is Mike Mashan. I'm head of the Moving Image Sectary of Congress. I'm very proud to represent my colleagues who work at the Packard Campus for Audio Visual Conservation in Culpeper, Virginia. It is a purpose built facilities funded by David Woodley Packard expressly for the purpose of acquiring, cataloging, housing, preserving, and making accessible the world's largest collection of film, video and sound records for a lot of people who are not even aware that the library even has film and video collections, but they're the largest in the world. We have roughly one for million moving image item in our collection, with film dating back to eighteen ninety one, very camera test up to all the current releases coming out today. So if you're worried about minions being preserved for future generation.

4:14 Got you covered, and we're especially delighted to be a part of this program. There's one little I was debating whether or not it's about this, but I'm I'm gonna use my opportunity here, my minute or two for a little And we're the Copyright Library, and so when film producers, television producers want to register the work for copyright, they have to submit a copy to the library. And you're familiar with this with and all, but they do this for movies, television shows, documentary, poodle grooming with Debbie, you know, those sorts of video. It's a real topic.

4:55 You're familiar with that, But we are sort of in we're in the end day of thirty five mils. Very hard to see thirty five millimeter these days. We still operate a film preservation laboratory when we preserve film, we make new film. We have a lot of digital tools in the toolbox as well. But when I was asked to put together some clips for the second half of the program, I had to get clips from the HBO documentary Going Clear and from The Woman in Gold, a film with Helen and I will tell you neither one of those clips looked particularly good. I had to rip them from now Woman in Gold. You know, it is a major theatric release, but the studios simply aren't making very many thirty five millimeter prints, and they're making digital cinema become cryptied to prevent piracy. Well, we can't preserve the library. I have to get them unencrypted. So we actually need a change to the copyright. So when you see clipped from the Woman in Gold, you're going to see at the top it says something like property of TWC.

6:01 That's the wines that released it. In another little bug in the lower right hand corner that says us copier. So instead of getting a nice thirty five millimeters print of that film, we're now getting a watermarked DVD or so sad, but I figured I would at very least give you a little teachable moment so we'd understand, so you wouldn't look at that and say, why couldn't that guy come up? But we're going to have a really terrific program tonight. I'm glad to see we have, says my very introduced to the start tonight's program, the chief film critic of. The Washington Thank you, Mike, think all of you being here this how many we had fun? We're going to have you know A. Scott Berg is the author of the Pulitzer biographer Charles.

6:42 You know A. Scott Berg is the aud of Willson biographer. But for our purposer tonight, we're going to focus on his other work that includes books about Katherine, Hepburg and Wiler. It includes a screenplay that he wrote for a pivotal film called Making History in the Fame Knowledge that of which Emperor That's most important? His book Max Editor of Genius. Soon to be sure, after a long and winding mood, I might add, and I can't, but he has a lot of wisdom and is very generous. Air a special part of it with us first part of the with the presentation film. I can't wait to see Scott. Burke, thank you well. That was a real over promise of wisdom. I'll give you a lot of talk. I don't know how much of it will be wisdom, but it will all be heartfelt. Books to movies is the main theme of all this. I means the National Festival.

7:30 So what I was going to do with my break in a panel in the next session is to talk about not just books to movie, but about a book I wrote about the movies. A biographer Samuel Goldwyn, and to talk about these themselves, and you might even start to something. I am a biographer. I spent my life telling life, and I have now written five biographies. If you have heard the first I did, it was based on my scene in college a biograph. You have a man named Will Perkin, a book editor by trade, most famous for basically discovering developing the talents of F. Scottzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, Thoms, Jones, or Caldwell, Ergan Caldwell, and then mentioned another two dozen authors who literally changed the course of the American river that we call American literature. I then did another, my book on Goldwynd, which I'll get back to it. I then did a book Charles Lindberg.

8:24 So I do my books because I decided very early on that I wanted to try to capture twentieth century American in a shelf full of books. So after doing the story of Perkin, who was an East Coast ninth generation white Anglo Saxon protest, my third book, and as I said, I'll jump back to number two, was Lindberg, who was a Midwesterner that became a book about aviation, but also about modern celebrity. My next book that I was about to do was about who was a Southerner. As many of you know, it was a book obviously about politics, about government. It was also a book about higher education in this country, having been a professors president for most of his career. Before I started that book, my publisher said, Scott, before you get into that will it occurs to me, although you don't talk about much, that you sneak off on weekends with Catherine Hepburn, is that true? As it is true, would you ever think about writing a book about her? And I said, well, yes, it's funny you should mention that because she has asked me on more than one occasion to write a book about and in fact, at one point when I asked why it was so important I should write a book about her, she explained, quite simply because I'm fascinating, and of course she was, and of course I did. And what happened is for twenty years in which we were friends.

9:43 After almost every meal we had together, after every weekend, after every trip, whatever it was, she would say the same thing to me, go upstairs and write down everything, I said, why you got it? So that has been how I've spent most of the last forty forty five years now to go to book two. Right after my Max Perkins I began, that's when I began to think of putting this apple pie take, of trying to tell the story of the twentieth century half of American dral figures. So after writing about the quintessential wasp Harvard educated Coast book person, I began to think, what's the opposite of that? And I immediately thought of that remarkable first generation, half dozen Jewish immigrants who had come to this country, all within a few years of each other at the turn of the century, all within They all were born within five hundred miles of each back in Middle Europe, and none of them was educated. They all migrated to the West Coast and they started something something we now call And of all the mogul, the early moguls, there was one who really stood out as the quintessential mogul, the most interesting, and that was Samuel Goldwin.

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11:40 And so he is the one I selected to become the subject of my second book. Now there was one other really good reason for me to write about it, and that as I received a phone call just as I was going through this thought process from Samuel Goldwyn Junior, I mean, out of the blue came this call asking if I wanted to write a biography of his father, and he explained to me that before his father had died, he had promised that he would get a biographer to write about him. And the old man, Old sam Goldwyn said, that's great. I want a biographer, but I want to be dead before it's published, because I want the book to tell the truth. And this has always been a problem in writing about Hollywood figure because Hollywood itself is great invention. These six moguls were self inventor they were all self invented character in point of fact, and the problem we're trying to dig up act hard facts on the In the case of Samuel Goldwyn, fortunately for me, he had kept all his archive, every one of his papers, and sam Goldwyn Junior was making them available. So when he approached and asked if I want to write of his famous father, Samah Goldwyn, he said, you have act says that indefinitely. I said, but you know, i'd take your word for it, but you're the son of Samuel Goldwan junior. I'd like to see what I will be dealing.

13:02 And he lived in Beverly Hills, and I went to visit him there, and there he said, look, here is a key, and here's an address of lions moving and stored in the middle of Hollywood. Go down there is key when you get first the first family vault. And I went over and well, I'll never forget driving over. It's a six story building. You took the elevator up to the top, got out, climbed up a fire escape, went across the roof, and then down another stairwell into a whole other part of a building you couldn't normally access. And then down two long dark halls and there at the end was a huge door with a padlock, and there was the key. So put the key in, turned on a light switch. One bolb hanging down in the middle of a room that I would say was probably twenty It was completely surrounded. I went the first filecat and I found papers going back relating to a man named Schmool Gilbert who was a teenage runaway from Warsaw, Poland who came to this country. I would later learn he stole the money, did not come through the border normally.

14:13 He's an illegal alien. Jumped ship in Canada, having come over steer it, walked across the border somewhere in Maine, made his way by foot to New York City. Once he got there, he went to the Jewish sector of Manhattan, realized it was a Jewish ghetto just like the one he had run away from Warsaw. Wanted to get out of the city. Heard about a place upstate called Gloversville, New York, where schmool Geldfish changed his name to Samuel Samuel Goldfish, became a glove maker and then a glove salesman, and then he moved to New York City, where he became the greatest glove salesman, and one day in nineteen thirteen, felt the something was happening, the glovebit it was about, and he walked one very hot August day for the first time into a movie Times Square, and as he walked in, Bronco Billy, who was the biggest Western star of the silent screen at that moment, riding along on a horse, and he made a leap onto a moving train.

15:15 Samuel Goldfish, exciting, decided by the time he walked out of that theater and going, and that's what he did. He talked his brother in law, who was a vaudevillian named Jesse Lask, into going into business with him. The two of them they decided to opt play together, which they did call The Squawman. Sam Goldfish thought this was perfect vehicle for a movie because it was a Western and it was a love so he thought it would appeal to men. He put it together, they decided to find a director. As one man they wanted to go to William de Mill and so they went to William de Mill's agent, who happened. They said, missus de Mill, we'd like to hire your son William to direct our first movie, and she said, well, he's very busy. He's a very busy man. But I happened to have another son named Cecil. Now, yes, Cecil b uh Well, has he ever directed it? No, but he's a very good actor, and we're sure he could direct a movie. Well, she was a damn good agent, Mama de Mill, because they took a flyer on this guy, Cecil to Mill. They got on a train in New York City with a small crew and a small cast. They went to the end of the line, which was Flagstaff Arizona film in the Western. Then Cecil de Mill and crew walked outside, looked around. It didn't look at all the way. Cecil to Mill thought the West. So they got back on another train which was then going to go to the end of that line, which landed and after a few days in Los Angeles, Goldfish he's still back in New

16:46 York mine he's minding the store while Jesse Laski de Mill are out there now in Los Angeles and they find a barn middle of some orange gus where they decided to film their movie. Reputedly, Lasky swears the so I'm sure it's fall Hollywood, but He said that he sent a telegram back to sam Goldfish saying have rented a barn, a place called Hall, and there they made the first feature film ever made. So I'm finding all this just going through files. This is awf the exciting. So now I'm really revved up about all this. So I decide just to start opening drawers whatever I can. I find that. Indeed, when Goldfish decided to go into this and then Cecil de mill on this train, the first person talked to about how to make a movie Thomas Edison. Imagine all right Edison? Who better how to make a movie? The guy who invented it? Okay, Now I went to the very last and the very last drawer had the fungshet that Samuel Goldwyn secretary kept every time he had had a stroke in his late eighty the last call to come in before he had his from Warren, and I realized everything in between these files would allow me to docum a story of Holly's edis that was a story. So not only did I spend the next year and a half going through hundreds of thousands of documents, I spent much of the interviewing about one hundred and fifty, most of whom were from the

18:17 Golden I was able to interview Olivia de Hali Davis, Catherine Hepberg, Myrna Lloys, Sidney, Joel McCrae, the Great Director, William Wyler, Gedoor, Henry King, Henry Hathaway. Virtually any actor, writer, directors alive from the Golden Era had worked with. I was one hundred and fifty. Hasten to add that about one hundred and ten of them die before I was published. Now, Hollywood a small town, and word began to spread that when you get a call from Scott Byrd for your interview, don't say yes, oh no, it's your time. It's time for the interview. Oh yeah, come quietly, come gently, you'll be well anyway, interview I'd now I want to get into some film clear. I was also fortunate enough because Samuel Goldw later changed his name from Goldfish to Goldwin when he went into business Celwin Brothers. So they could have either formed Goldwin Pictures or sell Fit far more apt, but they went with Goldwyn, which sounded like a winner, a gold Win, so that was kind of great. Now, Samuel Goldwyn got kicked out of what initially became Paramount Picture.

19:28 That's when he went into business. The cel Wins formed the Goldwyn Company, which went into business with Louis B. Mayer and the Metro Company. He got kicked out of what became Metro Goldwyn Mayor. He's gone from that one. He finally realizes, maybe I should work alone. Maybe I have a personality problem. And indeed Samuel Goldwyn started his own independent film call. He made eighty motion picture as produced by Samuel Goldwyn. That is a say, every one of these he financed himself. He owned himself, selected which movies of they ten thousands of alternative of option across a producer's desk in a lifetime. He selected which ones could be I don't.

20:15 Out and they give it at DOT for few things. I am like thered in a country club and just means a sy that he's giving a go on the pot. Here's having said he's given bodyship. A GNS and buy. And so of those I began to think, and this is what I would like you to consider tonight. When I run a few clips, do these clips reveal anything about Samuel Goldwyn the person? I'm a biograph I want to illuminate his life. Are there some little nuggets that tell me what made him to tell me? Who?

21:07 Then? You know, the job of a biographer is not just to tell a life, to tell about the world in which a subject. So do any of these clips in fact, reveal anything about Hollywood as Hollywood was developing over the fifty Does it about the country in which Samuel goldwyin? Indeed, does it tell about the anything happens about the So that's what I wanted to do the book when I was watching the movies, and also I want tonight. So Samuel Goldwyn with his own company rolling along, he's a very successful producer silent films. He's doing extremely well, especially in the mid nineteen twenties. He has now developed two big silent screens. They are Ronald Coleman, Vilma Banking and you know, well, I'm going to show you a clip of the two of them in a movie called The Winning of Barbara Worth, which was based on a book by a very popular author of the day named Harold bell Wright, and you will see the great irony Goldwyn and about so many of the other moguls semi literate, how often and in fact less literate they were The more, they relied a more serious literary So here is a clip from a movie that came out in nineteen late twenty six, early twenty seven called The Winning of Barbara Worth God's Willing Here we go. Silent movies, by the way, were never silent. When you went to even a small theater in Iowa, or if you went to a big theater in New York City, there was always musical accompany.

22:38 But there's Ronald Coleman and Vilma Banking, and you're about to meet after his first You're film, a man named Frank Cooper, whose agent said, why don't you name yourself after my little town in Indiana? And thus Munsey Cooper, no Gary Cooper. And watched the staging of the scene, which was by Henry King, a great director. He told me when he staged the scene, he wrecked recognize Gary Cooper was a new style of actor. And he said, when I did this scene, you can see the old style walking off. And you're left with that. Now, months after this movie came out, Goldwyn has these two stars. It was a huge the jazz singer. Suddenly we have talking pictures. Ronald Coleman, I found in the file, had sent a letter to Sam Goldwyn's Sam, these silent movies, I think they're not gonna last. Surely you will not put me in any of them, not with my voice.

23:33 Ronald Coleman, if you don't know, had one of the most voice ever. Vilma Banky spoke only Hungarian, with a very thick Hungarian. So that was the end of Vilma Banky's career, I'm afraid. And in fact, there were only two silent screens who went on to bigger talking picture careers, and they are Ronald Coleman and Greta Garba. Now Goldwyn's next picture, as he starts to get into talking, because his next big picture, all Talking, came out in thirty this is a movie called Bulldog Drummond, And I'm gonna run this clip from of Wonderful. The scene, as you will see, is really about sound. You could now go to the movie and you've begun of a Now people were hearing sounds from a screen they had never heard.

24:18 Microphones were very crude, rudimentary, and hear all the dialogue. You could hear a spoon drop. Its breathtaking, Oh the eternal din I ask you what, You're perfectly right, colonel We all complete. Do you know that the third I've heard doctor and there's wrong, somebody throw a bomb and wait to play up. You could go to the movies and hear a man whistle. They were making so many movies with people whistling in them. In nineteen twenty nine and nineteen thirty they were as a gag. People were calling them whistlies. And now all the studios are making musicals.

25:02 I mean they're they're really beefing up to do anything they could to show what you could now do in a motion picture. And indeed it was at this time musical starting to get that people were getting second tirrant. And it was at this moment that goldw decided to make his first his first man. And for that he went to New York and he found an actor whom he turned into the biggest movie star he made musical and if you have a cool it once, it's a movie called Whooping. The star was Eddy Cantor, Huge star of radio screen Zigfeld Folly. Hello everyone, This is Doctor of Sean Hashani live from a barn country club in Virginia, and I just wanted to say that myke K four SHD radio and top for BV show called Me Try The Doctor of Sean Hashni is syndicated worldwide and has more than three hundred listeners.

26:01 And if you want these shows to continue, please give his sponsorship. And I request to please give his sponsorship because these shows require a lot of energy and money to produce. So I would request every one to give me sponsorship and your product would be promoted in a very reasonable price. And you can contact me Atafshan at Dirshanhashmi dot com tears and bye bye. That's all you get at that. You can see what a super talent. And he made musical for Golden Now. Goldwyn came up with a nice formula. He would alternate in silly musical comedies and indeed that one whol Be was the first one to employ the talents of a choreographer who had never worked in movies named Busby, and Goldwin actually brought him out to Hollywood versus Busby play revolutely movie musical. Now he would alternate's silly comedy, serious drama, and most well he was Goldwen was making films based on very stage plays, sin Clara Lewis's Dodsworth. He did another one based on Arrowsmith by Saint Clara Lewis a dead End, the play by C. Kingsley. So there was some very high minded literature that Goldwan trans very exciting in pictures. And then in nineteen thirty nine, the Golden Year all of Hollywood history, Sam Goldwan produced a script that had been kicking around Hollywood years. And it was kicking around because well, it was based considered a very serious but a very dark and that book was Emily

27:33 Bronte's Wuthering Height. And here you have merl Oberon and Lawrence Olivier in his first important role. Yes, those are the fabled moors of Chatsworth, California. This was Goldman's favorite movie. And I think here's the reason why. See, he really had the ultimate American dream story. He made it big in America. The Heather was Ship from Yorkshire to Taxy. That's the movie that made Lawrence Olivier. Fact. The reason this movie got made really is that in the late thirties war was starting to ratchet up, and in fact, Franklin Roosevelt the moguls, I want to get us into we need to start building spirit for oursh cousin. And he asked all the studio moguls if they would make very pro British film. So this is how films like Pride and Prejudice and Wuthering Heights began to flood the market thirties. By nineteen forty one. Of course, we were in the war into nineteen forty two. The government basically, we need propaganda movies, but out of Hollywood obvious propaganda.

28:39 Make pro American movies, movies about American heroes. And this was Samuel Goldwyn's Country, The Pride of the Yank the Story of Lou Garrig and his most famous scene, Jarry Cooper Foot give me healthy. I have a white companion for life. We people all say that I've had a bed brid today they consider my lucky man. For those of you who say Garret Chrischer should only say yup, yes, that is Babe Ruth. As Babe Ruth allow. Viewers around the growth. This is doctor Scham had a live for her radio show at KAVE four SD and Talk for TV show, and I just wanted to request you that please give me a sponsorship if you want to want this show to continue.

29:30 Having said that, I will see you. In another episode of K four HD radio plus Talk for TV show, and if you give me a sponsorship, I will give you a very reasonal price. And they're also you will get a lot of promotion as this show is syndicated worldwide to move them through this last years and bye bye. Once again. Goldwyn keeps going, alternating. He discovered a new star named Danny K, so he would alternate Danny k music with more serious dramas. I'm gonna show you a clip of well, one of Samuel Goldwyn's most celebrated movies again basis of literature, on Lillian Hellman's play The Little Foxes.

30:10 Lillian Hellman, they got to interview she died, but anyway, she said, and with very good reason. And for the scene I'm about to show you that she thought the film of the Little fox played better than any version play. And it was for this one particular in which Betty Davis, whom Samuel Goldwyn got out of her ironclad Warner Brothers contract for this one movie because of a poker debt. Jack Warner had just was unable to pa and he said, is there any way I could I could work off this debt? And he said, yes, Betty Davis, No, I can't loan out Betty Davis, Well, what if I give you Gary Cooper to play sergent yorke? Okay? So he did, and she did, and they did, and anyway, they made this scene in which Betty Davis plays the most vile, greediest woman who who ever lived, and her husband holds all the cards. But he is about to die and he's got a very weak heart and he needs his heart medicine. As you will now see. Now the thing to look at, and this is an interest of filmmaker Samuel Goldwyn had developed a cameraman over many years who became I still think the greatest cinematography of the history of Greg Toland. He is most famous from the cameraman on Citizen Kane. He cut his teeth on twenty five Goldwan before and afters and Kane. Here you'll see something Toland developed called focus, in which by using a certain kind of lens and lighting the two areas a stage different, brightening the background and darker in the foreground, you could

31:43 capture two different playing areas at once. And so here's the scene from Little Fox that Lillian Hellman thought really clinched it. That's Herbert Marshall playing her husband. Now watch Betty Davis. There's not a word she speaks scored to this movie. By the way, it was written by Meredith Wilson, long before he wrote the music. And look at Betty David. Haha, doesn't have to speak. And I should tell you Herbert Marshall, the actor had a wooden leg, so the staggering well, and they couldn't really film him climbed stair, and so William Wyler, the great director, staged the scene so that he would walk off camera and then his body double would go up the stairs. Great. Now America does go to war, America comes home. This is a time Hollywood decided not to do anything it had to do with war, a sec of war move. This is the moment that Sam Goldway, this independent filmmaker, going against all those big studios, Paramount MGM that kicked him out, Warner Brothers, Universal, all the others. Sam Golden at this well, decides to make his war move actual. To make he makes the first and the most important, the best post war move. It's called The Best Years of Our Lives, originally based on a magazine article, but this is Goldred read and the trouble soldiers were having readjusting Goldwyn decided there was a movie there. He gave it author McKinley Canter to write a book, and McKinley Canter went off and wrote a book based on Little did Goldwyn know it would come back written in poetry. Goldwan said, I don't know what

33:16 to do. And it wasn't until William Wyler, the great director, Goldwan's great director, came back from the war severely injured. He had lost much of his hearing. He fell in love with the story. He wanted to tell the story a soldier's coming rather universally. And this one scene I'm about to show you, I think it's just the greatest single moment in postwar film. And it captured not just the moment in a character's lives, but it captured the homecoming moment every American family, every family around the world. Hello everyone, this is doctor Rafshan Hashmi lie from a barn country club in Virginia, and I just wanted to say that my K four sdradio and doc for b Call Me ten with Doctor Rushan Hashmi is syndicated worldwide and has more than three hundred listeners. And if you want these shows to continue, please give a sponsorship and I request to please give a sponsorship because these shows require a lot of energy and money to produce. So I would request every one to give me a sponsorship and your product quickly promoted in a very reasonable price.

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